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		<title>By: 32-P</title>
		<link>http://www.sodacraze.com/2010/03/02/this-never-happens-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-7792</link>
		<dc:creator>32-P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So, who gets to decide? If you say, ‘patrons’, you get what you are calling ‘censorship’. If you say, ‘the librarians’, then that’s just a government committee dictating their taste in literature, which many wouldn’t like either. If you were to select things randomly, then everyone would presumably be equally unhappy with the result.&quot;

A very good point, and actually, I had never previously thought of how libraries start off their book collections and decide which new books to buy every year.  I assume it&#039;s a combination of patron requests and best-seller lists or something.  Though for children and young-adult literature, it also appears that they do a lot of their buying based on the yearly awards/medals (Newbery, Caldecott, etc).  

I would totally go to a library whose collection consisted only of Nobel prize winners.  So wonderfully pretentious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So, who gets to decide? If you say, ‘patrons’, you get what you are calling ‘censorship’. If you say, ‘the librarians’, then that’s just a government committee dictating their taste in literature, which many wouldn’t like either. If you were to select things randomly, then everyone would presumably be equally unhappy with the result.&#8221;</p>
<p>A very good point, and actually, I had never previously thought of how libraries start off their book collections and decide which new books to buy every year.  I assume it&#8217;s a combination of patron requests and best-seller lists or something.  Though for children and young-adult literature, it also appears that they do a lot of their buying based on the yearly awards/medals (Newbery, Caldecott, etc).  </p>
<p>I would totally go to a library whose collection consisted only of Nobel prize winners.  So wonderfully pretentious!</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand what you&#039;re saying, but I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve explained myself fully.

A library is a certain size, and books are a certain size. Books continue to be introduced. Thus, the library must do a combination of (a) expand, (b) not obtain every new book, and/or (c) remove certain books from the collection. I think no one is proposing that only (a) is acceptable. Both (b) and (c) will require someone to exclude books from the library.

So, who gets to decide? If you say, &#039;patrons&#039;, you get what you are calling &#039;censorship&#039;. If you say, &#039;the librarians&#039;, then that&#039;s just a government committee dictating their taste in literature, which many wouldn&#039;t like either. If you were to select things randomly, then everyone would presumably be equally unhappy with the result.

What I see here is a system that limits library patron&#039;s access to information no matter how you arrange it. The system&#039;s limitations will disproportionally affect minors and those of lower income, but this is not the only nor the worst example of systematic discrimination against these groups in our society.

As an add-on, I object to the watering-down of terms like &#039;censorship&#039;. But I recognize that I&#039;m a prescriptive fuddy-duddy, and that in the absence of an environment where distribution or possession of materials is punished, people will start to apply &#039;censorship&#039; to the actions of public libraries and blog owners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you&#8217;re saying, but I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve explained myself fully.</p>
<p>A library is a certain size, and books are a certain size. Books continue to be introduced. Thus, the library must do a combination of (a) expand, (b) not obtain every new book, and/or (c) remove certain books from the collection. I think no one is proposing that only (a) is acceptable. Both (b) and (c) will require someone to exclude books from the library.</p>
<p>So, who gets to decide? If you say, &#8216;patrons&#8217;, you get what you are calling &#8216;censorship&#8217;. If you say, &#8216;the librarians&#8217;, then that&#8217;s just a government committee dictating their taste in literature, which many wouldn&#8217;t like either. If you were to select things randomly, then everyone would presumably be equally unhappy with the result.</p>
<p>What I see here is a system that limits library patron&#8217;s access to information no matter how you arrange it. The system&#8217;s limitations will disproportionally affect minors and those of lower income, but this is not the only nor the worst example of systematic discrimination against these groups in our society.</p>
<p>As an add-on, I object to the watering-down of terms like &#8216;censorship&#8217;. But I recognize that I&#8217;m a prescriptive fuddy-duddy, and that in the absence of an environment where distribution or possession of materials is punished, people will start to apply &#8216;censorship&#8217; to the actions of public libraries and blog owners.</p>
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		<title>By: 32-P</title>
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		<dc:creator>32-P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 14:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Libraries aren’t obliged to carry a copy of every book in existence.&quot;

True, but neither should a library be obliged to remove books that it &lt;i&gt;already&lt;/i&gt; has on the shelves because one patron complains that the book promotes an &quot;anti-establishment view,&quot; for instance.  (And that was a poetry anthology!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Libraries aren’t obliged to carry a copy of every book in existence.&#8221;</p>
<p>True, but neither should a library be obliged to remove books that it <i>already</i> has on the shelves because one patron complains that the book promotes an &#8220;anti-establishment view,&#8221; for instance.  (And that was a poetry anthology!)</p>
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		<title>By: Warren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Warren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Count me among the apathetic. Libraries aren&#039;t obliged to carry a copy of every book in existence. The selection process will always be subjective, and opinions will vary. If that was the extent of censorship in this country, then I&#039;d be happy.

Of course, it&#039;s not; one example being customs and their obscenity confiscations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Count me among the apathetic. Libraries aren&#8217;t obliged to carry a copy of every book in existence. The selection process will always be subjective, and opinions will vary. If that was the extent of censorship in this country, then I&#8217;d be happy.</p>
<p>Of course, it&#8217;s not; one example being customs and their obscenity confiscations.</p>
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		<title>By: 32-P</title>
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		<dc:creator>32-P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corey: oh thank God, I thought I was the only one who thought &#039;Catcher in the Rye&#039; was pretentious crap.  I wanted to smack Holden Caulfield upside the head about one in every three sentences.
Naked Lunch: OK, I&#039;d maybe remove it from public schools, but I don&#039;t think it needs to be locked up in public libraries.  It really needs to be read in context with the other Beat literature for you to see what the impact was and kind of where it fits in the whole scene.  (Uh, daddy-O.  Don&#039;t be such a square.)  ;)
Mark: I know, it&#039;s a cool idea right?  Too bad most people will be so apathetic about the cause.  :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corey: oh thank God, I thought I was the only one who thought &#8216;Catcher in the Rye&#8217; was pretentious crap.  I wanted to smack Holden Caulfield upside the head about one in every three sentences.<br />
Naked Lunch: OK, I&#8217;d maybe remove it from public schools, but I don&#8217;t think it needs to be locked up in public libraries.  It really needs to be read in context with the other Beat literature for you to see what the impact was and kind of where it fits in the whole scene.  (Uh, daddy-O.  Don&#8217;t be such a square.)  <img src='http://www.sodacraze.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Mark: I know, it&#8217;s a cool idea right?  Too bad most people will be so apathetic about the cause.  <img src='http://www.sodacraze.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 18:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Free-range banned books, what a great idea! Though I can&#039;t help but wonder how many are stagnating in lost-and-found boxes because someone couldn&#039;t be bothered to read the sticker...

Also, I love the art deco illustration on A Farewell to Arms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Free-range banned books, what a great idea! Though I can&#8217;t help but wonder how many are stagnating in lost-and-found boxes because someone couldn&#8217;t be bothered to read the sticker&#8230;</p>
<p>Also, I love the art deco illustration on A Farewell to Arms.</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Catcher in the Rye - Dreadfully boring piece of work that is interesting only when you find out that it was a banned book.
Naked Lunch - Should be censured from public schools and be placed in restricted sections of libraries. I&#039;d rather not have a young child find this book and use it to push the buttons of uptight teachers and family.

Censoring I&#039;ve performed:
Deleted various comments on my blog, which were made by spam bots.
I&#039;ve given the thumbs-down on social news sites like digg and reddit, which can eventually cause the comment to go invisible, which effectively censures the comment.
I was recently forced to throw a few of my old study guides into the recycling pile as no one wanted to take them off our hands. I was guilt ridden as it felt like I was participating in a book burning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catcher in the Rye &#8211; Dreadfully boring piece of work that is interesting only when you find out that it was a banned book.<br />
Naked Lunch &#8211; Should be censured from public schools and be placed in restricted sections of libraries. I&#8217;d rather not have a young child find this book and use it to push the buttons of uptight teachers and family.</p>
<p>Censoring I&#8217;ve performed:<br />
Deleted various comments on my blog, which were made by spam bots.<br />
I&#8217;ve given the thumbs-down on social news sites like digg and reddit, which can eventually cause the comment to go invisible, which effectively censures the comment.<br />
I was recently forced to throw a few of my old study guides into the recycling pile as no one wanted to take them off our hands. I was guilt ridden as it felt like I was participating in a book burning.</p>
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